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Revision as of 12:09, 17 October 2010
Contents
- 1 Wood Finishing
- 2 Woody Design Session 12/30
- 3 Annex Heating and Cooling
- 4 Windows and Doors
- 5 Walls and Floors
- 6 Earth Tubes
- 7 Scrap Metal
- 8 Water Tanks
- 9 Earth Tube Design
- 10 Metal Windows
- 11 Soda Blasting
- 12 Water Heater / Chiller
- 13 Sustainable Neighborhoods
- 14 Portable Mill (Saw)
- 15 Roofing Reuse
- 16 Plumbing
- 17 Project Planning
- 18 Out there
- 19 Woody Design Session 08/09/10
- 20 Odd Jobs
- 21 Materials
- 22 Backyard
- 23 Doors
- 24 Tom Decisions
- 25 Interior design
- 26 Joe Points
Wood Finishing
Research on wood finshing products as it relates to our ceiling, floors, and windows.
- Environmentally sound finishes Very good article when making a selection of paint finishes.
- DEFY from SaverSystems Is a good low-VOC water based sealer. Technical Data Sheets for products.
- Defy is available from a Rochester, MI company ... The SealerStore
Woody Design Session 12/30
- Windows
- Front trim - mullions - transoms DONE
- Window Sills DONE
- Wall integration DONE
- Window / Door to 3 season room
- 16" bottom panel DONE
- Doors
- Front + Lobby DONE
- Side + Lobby
- Front Brick - Stone
- Side brick - limestone DONE
- Staircase
- Metal design DONE
- Other ideas
- Historic Ceiling
- Fill in
- Metal
- Sealing DONE
- Wall finishes
- Columns DONE
- gypsum alternative
Annex Heating and Cooling
- Design
- Green Garage Annex Perimeter Heating and Cooling Design
- Installing Radiant System...helpful instructions
- Concrete Underslab Barrier
- Concrete foil barrier Insulating barrier under the concrete 3.8 R.
- Slab Shield
- Stego Industries Vapor Barrier Recommended by Kenco- available at Boomers supply in Detroit (313 832 5050).
- Pex Tubing
- 3/4" pex tubing Pex supply
- Pex Supply seems to have most complete inventory of sizes and parts.
- Wall System
- Radiant Wall System Here is a nice simple radiant wall system for the annex.
- Other
- Insuladd Paint additive This is a ceramic additive that acts as a radiant barrier.
- Meeting with Dan Bertolini (Aero Heating)regarding pex sizing and zoning for annex
- Typically runs 1/2" pex up to 240', temp drop over that length is in the 10-15 degree range.
- Dan prefers to use Uponor PEXa tubing, and has had good response and follow through with their products. The difference between PEXa, PEXb, and PEXc is primarily the manufacturing process, they all meet the same ASTM standards, but Dan explained the installation benefits of PEXa being more flexible, and having a material memory such that in the case of most kinks etc the material can be heated and will return to its original shape.
- Another great tip from experience was to video the pex tubing in place with tape measure located in various spots to identify the PEX location in the concrete should any drilling or fastening to the slab be necessary in the future- without damaging the embeddeded PEX.
Windows and Doors
- FCS Certified wood
- Andrea Ph#
- Shim Screws + Gaskets...new way to avoid air infiltration and thermal bridging
- Shimscrews...also see the glazing gaskets
- Great site for advance materials ... Conservation Technology
- Centor bifold hardware
- Paul Sorensen 630 957 1000
- Heavy duty hardware for bifold windows or doors
- Weight for windows (double pane) figure 6.5 lbs/sqft
- Glass pricing
- 3/16" Tempered Single Pane $2.92 per square foot
- 1/8" Tempered Double Pane $6.28 per square foot
- Tempered triple pane 366 $14.86 per square foot
- Custom Door Craftsman- Ray Hansen
- Reclaimed barnwood supplier
- Carlson's Barnwood Company (Illinois) Lynnette Carlson 800.734.5824 fx 309.522.5123
Walls and Floors
- Vapor barrier for concrete floor Ames Research
- Product recommended by Ken to apply as a vapor barrier over the existing concrete. Roll on rubber barrier. Prime first for good adhesion.
Earth Tubes
- Tube cover for the wall = window well corrugated metal at Admiral Steel
- Called Kevin 36" Straight Economy $83 each plus shipping 800 323-7055
- Otto- EC4224x60- 190.65 each
- EC4224x48- 157.80 each
- $90 delivery
Scrap Metal
- Warren Michigan Scrap Metal (586)933-5539
- H&H Metals Inkster - 734.728.8050
- GLE Scrap Metal, 22200 Sherwood Avenue, Warren, MI 48091-5446; Phone: 586-754-7300
Water Tanks
- New Corrugated Steel
- Blue Scope Water
- CorGal Tanks Texas
- Underground Tanks
- Darco MI company
- Polypropolene Tanks
- Norwesco Tanks manufacturer
- Bailiff Co
- Can make tanks that can hold 200 degree water
- Have water tanks at$0.50/gallon
- ProTanks
- Ship from Ohio
- Tank for the front roof
- Tank for the back in-ground
- Tank for HVAC
- Used Tanks
- Douglas Tanks
- Schier Co. Used tanks Lots of tanks our size
- equipmentspecialists
- equipnet...great prices for 5,000 gallon tanks
Earth Tube Design
- Vic Zaderej (zaderej@alum.mit.edu)
- Solar Homes LLC
- 630-728-1107
- Excavating Contractors
- Radich Construction - Milan (248.320.2140) ...referred by John Kaliss (via John Lamb)
- Perlongo Excavating (Rick) 734.216.3125
- Pipe
- Keith Specialty6" S&D with Fittings pricing approx: $1.17/ft
- Talk to Jim about:
- 880ft of 6" s&d
- 24 6" s&d 90-elbows
- Norwesco Tanks
- 1400 gal Underground
- 1700 gal underground
- 550gal above ground
- Talk to Jim about:
- Keith Specialty6" S&D with Fittings pricing approx: $1.17/ft
Metal Windows
- Christman Co.
- Jeff Adcock - Accidental Insurance Project / Ottawa Power Plant / Phone: 517-482-1488 main office Lansing
- John Brecklebower 616.293.4296
- Chad Peoples 517-679-0313 / (c) 517.712.2036
- Monday @ 3pm metal windows...pick out
- Remediation by Michael L. Kelly / Environmental Maintenance Engineers, Inc.
- 25851 Trowbridge - Inkster - MI - 48141 / 313.791.2600 - 313.791.2601-Fax
- $490 per window
- They can try and save the glass
- Can provide the transportation
Soda Blasting
- Universal Materials - Soda material(Gary - 800-528-7086)
- SofStrip soda (XL at 260m) in 50lb bags @ $22/bag / 40 bags per pallet. check pallet price.
- Ships from their Chicago warehouse - $150 for freight
- Continues to be the safest environmental product.
- 2 day delivery
- Armex Supplier of Material ... Arm and Hammer Company
- Use the XL product
- Sunbelt Rental - equipment rental
- Soda Blaster ($200/day - $550/wk)
- Compressor ($95/day - $265/wk)
- Cooler ($50/day - $150/wk)
- 2 - 3 days advance notice
- Soda Blasting Contractors
- Ron Cone (Brighton) Alternative Media 248-240-7510
- Grand Northern Products
- Ron Wells (800) 968-1811 cell (616) 437-7156
- rent equipment and sell Natrium soda products
Water Heater / Chiller
Feb 26, 2010 Meeting
- Review of Current Design
- Design Loads
- Heating / Cooling
- Ventilation
- Radiant Floor Design 2.0
- Heating / Cooling 2.0
- Backup Heating Design
- Primary Cooling Design
- Ventilation 2.0
- Water-to-Water Potential
Backup Heating
- Tankless Hot Water Heaters
- Navien Tankless Hot water Heater
- Can raise 10,000gals - 1F in 30 minutes (see brochure info on 40F rise at 10gpm flow rate.
- Can be put in series
- www.tanklessguys.com
- Noritz Tankless - Condensating 94% efficient
- 841MC - DV Model DV = Direct Venting
- Noritz Tankless Hot Water Heaters
- Noritz vs. Navien comparison
- Pricing
- Munchkin Contender 96% efficient...very small wall unit. Here's the brochure.
- Triangle Tube Prestige gas boiler
- Can it do domestic hot water? If so how? With mixing valve.
- Navien Tankless Hot water Heater
Water Chiller / Cooling
- Small Chillers / Reverse Cycle
- Arcticool makes small chillers...only problem is refrigerant
- Chillers from Aqua Products Co. ...this is the company
- DCS Micro Chiller from Aqua Products Co. ...1 - 10 ton...completely modular.
- Aqua Products remote chiller...Aqua Products remote chillers were developed to allow a client to use any type condensing unit preferred.
- Reverse Cycle Chillers...maybe the total answer.
- Hydronika kind of custom made chillers + boilers ... need to call
- Dehumidification Coil + Condenser
- Westinghouse IQ Drive 20+ SEER
- Westing house IQ Heat Pump
- Nordyne manufacturer of IQ drive] ...
- Heat Pump (reverse cycle chillers rcc)
- Unico Unichiller scalable, 3 ton, 10+ EER, great technical documentation. "The Unico reverse cycle chiller (RCC) produces water temperatures of 110 – 125 degrees down to 10 F outdoor temperatures. This makes the temperature rise in a RCC system 40 – 50 degrees, like a gas furnace. The DAT in a RCC air system will be 105 – 120 degrees, even at low outdoor temp’s, which will satisfy the indoor thermostat. Water is an excellent heat transfer device. Unlike a gas furnace that at best operates at 95% efficiency (even with the most recent advancement in furnace technology)—the Unico RCC’s COP is 2.3 down to 17 degrees F. COP stands for coefficient of performance and it is a measure of how much energy is input vs. output. In this example, for every 1 KW of electricity input into the RCC—it yields 2.3 KW. That is 230% efficient even at very cold temperatures. That is very impressive and extremely efficient! Mitchell Mechanical has installed them in 6 different residences to date with exciting results."
- Westing house IQ Heat Pump
- Daikin Altherma product
- Daikin Altherma heat pump unit looks like the high end is coming to the US. Designed for our total problem...hot water, cooling, backup heat.
- Altherma Brochure (large)
- Altherma Installation Manuals
- Sanyo mini ECO-i
- Sanyo mini ECO-i
- mini ECO-i Brochure (large)
- Sanyo's Hydrobox answer...looks great...only in the UK now.
- Air-to-Water Heat Exchangers
- Heat Exchangers more of a custom answer
- Great article on what's coming by Brian Nelson - Nelson Mechanical Design...Air-to-Water vs. geothermal, what the trends are. His website is link title www.nmdgreen.com - I haven't updated it with our most current projects but it may be of interest. thanks Brian Nelson
- Water Cooled Chiller
- Water Cooled Chiller 3 ton No performance specs. Glenn Oswalt - Engineer Advantage Engineering email on EERs.
- Advantage talked to Glen...there are used products on eBay
Sustainable Neighborhoods
- Growing a Sustainable Neighborhood ...work being done by Tom and Luis
Portable Mill (Saw)
- Matt Moran 586 634 9095
- Number came from Eric at Adair Salvage
Roofing Reuse
- Posted request for ideas on Facebook
- Spoke to Tom Hiner (referred by Devan Anderson) He does not know of a reuse for torch down roofing applications- only shingles. This seems to be a common thread- asphalt shingles can be ground for reuse, but no one is currently dealing with the flat roof tear-offs.
- Matt Naimi from Recyclean confirmed that roofing, plaster and drywall continue to be the hardest products to deal with. Regarding the roofing, he knows of no one reusing the old torch down roofing, and is not convinced reuse of asphalt shingles in road work will not create a leaching of chemicals into the soils in the future.
Plumbing
- Plumbing lines scoped by Ed Collins and Son- 313.363.6619
- Old building trap out of basement area need to be cut out and removed, and replaced with pvc.
- Sewer through annex building needs to be cleaned but looks good to tie into
- 15 to 18 " main behind building is clean and looks good. One of the best looking sewers Ed has seen. And he's seen a lot of sewers.
- Sewer main in alley is old brick main.
- Water main behind building is 9'7" below the concrete window sills, 4'2" behind the building. One repair is on a line with the telephone pole in adjacent to the apartment building chimney.
Project Planning
- Completed by Jan 1
- - Soda Blast
- December 15 - Roof through Durolast + facia + gutters
- - 3 Season Room
- - Backyard Earth-tubes, tank + temp fence
Out there
- Solatubes installed
- December 12 - Windows ordered
- Cut the flooring (historic for green house) + (annex for perimeter)
- Build wall / window frames
- Materials
- Recycling - metal, wire
- Dumpsters
- End of clay storm pipe under floor is 1' off rear wall and 12'4" off north wall.
Woody Design Session 08/09/10
- Width of window trim
- drywall trim
- Color ... stained...painted..washed
- Screws color and pattern
- Three Season Room
- Wall that's painted
- Common brick
- Limestone medallion
- Paint colors
- Stairs in back...landing, rail, design
- Railing design
- Backyard design
- Electric switches
- Library design
- Lighting
- Windows in back offices?
- Front Foyer - top of walls, soffits
- Paver design? ask Joe
- Under stairs storage
- Odd Parts
- Steel trap door
- Steel beam
- Yellow steel parts
- Wind turbine
- wood scraps
Odd Jobs
- Deconstruct Bathroom
- Put in hangers for drainage pipes
- Cut / route chart rail
- Seal the concrete block
- vacuum around perimeter
- Cut drywall trim
- Clean bricks
- OSB on top of bathroom
- Truck Well
- Cut off top of truck well
- Remove railing
- Put drywall into interior walls
- Fill Cinder block with concrete for the roof
- JUAN - Tuck point / clean brick
Materials
- Concrete Blocks?
- use in annex
Backyard
- fix drainage (this week)
- Green garage - Frank on Thursday
- Brentwood - (Mark) Scheduled for this week 9/2-9/3
- grade backyard (Mancini - Sat)
- Put in fence holes (Tony - Weds)
- cedar
- iron
- plant trees - arborvitae (Barb - Weds)
- Install limestone around doors (Juan)
- Fabric and Limestone Sand (Mancini - Thur)
- NOT in compost area
- cover holes
- Use Limestone/red sandstone as stepping stones outside of doors
- Steps and Planters (E+H - Mon)
- Use Ohio brick around planters
- Install wood posts (E+H)
- Install pergola (Taru - Mon AM)
- Install fence + gates (Tony - Tue)
- Install cedar on wood posts (E+H)
- Rain barrel
- block compost area
- To Do's
- Call Mancini about Sat
- Get Key from Dan
- Call Tony about bid and holes
- Call Mark Sklut about drainage at Brentwood
Doors
- Sustainability Goals
- R > 5
- Low air infiltration
- Reuse
- High reuse content
- Can be recycled
- Allow natural sun light
- Exterior Thermal (5)
- Overall Options
- EPA Recommendations for doors
- NFRC has doors on it's site they can be searched starting here. Example ratings report for the ProVia New Construction Product.
- Republic Door high recycle content...can insulate. Many options.
- Securall Doors Quick replacement option in Indiana
- Ceco Trio Door has thermal break in jamb! Core is R-11 + overall system is R2.5
- Specific Options
- Annex Back Door (1)
- Annex Front Door (2) + Lobby Door (3)
- Historic Back Door (4)
- Roof Garden Door (5)...could have lip on all four sides
- Overall Options
- Special Doors (2)
- Double Doors between Buildings (1)... Ray do these...black + glass (Joe double check with Fire Dept) or *** eBay Double Door
- Annex Lobby Double Door (2) ...Holmann Look at U300 Commercial and Residential - Taurus (R12) and Phoenix (R7)...Phoenix right design for exterior
- Interior Office (5)
- Small Offices (1-4)
- Main conference room (5)
- Interior Bathroom (4)
- Woman's (1)
- Men's (2)
- Unisex (3)
- Shower (4)
- Basement (1)
- Storage Room (1)
- Reuse Existing
- Sourcing Ideas
- Used
- HH Windows has German designs for doors (lip) and windows
- ODW carries ProVia doors energy efficient
- Bravo Tilt and turn windows and doors
- Stanley K2 Hardware
- Weatherstripping (Magnetic)
- Magnetic Weatherstripping article
- MG-17 Weather Stripping @ Amazon
- Kerf compatible weather stripping...another option Thermwell
- Pemko Adjustable Threshold - Commercial Pemko makes a wide range of products available through hardware hut and others.
- Draftseal mother-load of draft prevention at doors...check out the catalog.
- Supplier
- Gandol Door in Romulus; Sue
- MCKERNAN, INC., 30596 GROESBECK HWY., ROSEVILLE, MI 48066, P:(586) 778-4666; Tom
Tom Decisions
- Tile for the annex bathroom
- Use paint on floor
- Stain with thin set concrete
- Electrical lock for the back gate
- Yes do it
- Fire alarm?
- Front gable covering
- Verify all exterior light types and location
- Material Reuse
- reuse Ohio brick scraps - put sealer on them
- Archive Removal
- TOP: For Fall 2009 - Spring 2010 construction work, see construction archives. Below is latest work.
- BOTTOM: see construction archives
- Main Menu: deconstruction
- Temporary Heaters
Interior design
- Harkness Table
- Encourage learning and teaching by all.
- Needs to be oval so you can see everyone's eyes.
- Seats 12 people
Joe Points
- Number of bricks? See trim material sheet
- Seal concrete pad in green house
- Finish Earth room storage
- Sawmill
- clear area
- cutting plan for wood