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** where Heat Output (Q-out) = Temp Rise x Volume Flow Rate x Specific Heat of Water | ** where Heat Output (Q-out) = Temp Rise x Volume Flow Rate x Specific Heat of Water | ||
* '''Basics Guidelines''' | * '''Basics Guidelines''' | ||
− | ** Solar thermal (liquid) panels are up to 80% efficient ... 5 to 10 times that of PV panels | + | ** Solar thermal (liquid) panels are up to 80% efficient ... 5 to 10 times that of PV panels (AR: I would suggest thermal is normally more like 35% to 70% efficient and about 3 or 4 times the efficiency of PV) |
** The efficiency varies greatly with delta T (Tin - Tout)the greater the difference the lower the efficiency | ** The efficiency varies greatly with delta T (Tin - Tout)the greater the difference the lower the efficiency | ||
* '''Solar Collectors''' | * '''Solar Collectors''' | ||
** Flat Panel vs. Evacuated Tube | ** Flat Panel vs. Evacuated Tube | ||
− | *** Choose: Flat panel because of lower cost (approx 1/3 the cost) and higher durability (twice the life)..performance usually better in the system vs. on the testing bench | + | *** Choose: Flat panel because of lower cost (approx 1/3 the cost) and higher durability (twice the life)..performance usually better in the system vs. on the testing bench (AR: I second most of the above, except square foot cost of discount Chinese evacs can be roughly equal to flat plates.) |
** Manufacturer [[Image:SRCC Data - SunEarth Empire 4x10.png|thumb|100px|SRCC Data for SunEarth - Empire]] | ** Manufacturer [[Image:SRCC Data - SunEarth Empire 4x10.png|thumb|100px|SRCC Data for SunEarth - Empire]] | ||
*** [http://www.sunearthinc.com/ Sun Earth] | *** [http://www.sunearthinc.com/ Sun Earth] | ||
**** [http://www.sunearthinc.com/empire_series_flat_plate.htm Empire Flat Plate] and [http://www.sunearthinc.com/empire.pdf Spec] single glazed, copper, selective absorber |Intercept: 0.758, Slope: -0.727 | **** [http://www.sunearthinc.com/empire_series_flat_plate.htm Empire Flat Plate] and [http://www.sunearthinc.com/empire.pdf Spec] single glazed, copper, selective absorber |Intercept: 0.758, Slope: -0.727 | ||
**** [[Conversation with Bob at SunEarth on March 23, 2008]] | **** [[Conversation with Bob at SunEarth on March 23, 2008]] | ||
− | *** Others: [http://solarhotusa.com/index.html Solar Hot Panels] highly recommended, AET (STSS recommended), Solar Thermal System, Heliodyne large market share. [http://www.apricus.com/ Apricus] ... the evacuated version that Roman used. | + | *** Others: [http://solarhotusa.com/index.html Solar Hot Panels] highly recommended, AET (STSS recommended), Solar Thermal System, Heliodyne large market share. [http://www.apricus.com/ Apricus] ... the evacuated version that Roman used. (AR: We are now shifting from SolarHot collectors to Solene Cromagen - slightly better numbers and equally good pricing - just under $800 for a 4x10) |
* '''Preliminary Specifications''' | * '''Preliminary Specifications''' | ||
** Size: 4ft x 10ft | ** Size: 4ft x 10ft | ||
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** Positioning | ** Positioning | ||
*** On the annex building flat roof | *** On the annex building flat roof | ||
− | *** Vertical Angle: 55 degrees per SRCC guide the panels should be (Latitude + 15 degrees) for winter heating driven systems | + | *** Vertical Angle: 55 degrees per SRCC guide the panels should be (Latitude + 15 degrees) for winter heating driven systems (AR: 10 panels at 55 degrees will probably create a lot of summer overheating. My first thought for this application is more like 65 to 70 degrees) |
− | *** Horizontal Angle: solar "true" south - determine at site...slightly west of magnetic south...estimated to be approx + 4degrees degrees for Detroit. +/- 15 degrees is ok. Site for [http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_rstablew.pl sunrise/sunset data] | + | *** Horizontal Angle: solar "true" south - determine at site...slightly west of magnetic south...estimated to be approx + 4degrees degrees for Detroit. +/- 15 degrees is ok. Site for [http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_rstablew.pl sunrise/sunset data] (AR: I would recommend 5 or 8 degrees West of due South to slightly favor the afternoon sun when it is warmer with lower delta T) |
*** Configuring | *** Configuring | ||
− | **** Portrait orientation | + | **** Portrait orientation |
− | **** Parallel connection | + | **** Parallel connection (AR: For lowest cost installation, and best efficiency with least exterior piping, I would recommend all 10 panels in one straight row, in series - Feed emerges from roof at one end. Return enters roof at other end - could not be more efficient) |
− | **** One feeder pipe to two groups of five panels in parellel (i.e. five per manifold.) | + | **** One feeder pipe to two groups of five panels in parellel (i.e. five per manifold.) ** Thermal Capacity: |
− | ** Thermal Capacity: | + | *** 23 Million BTU per heating season (Nov15 - Mar 15) See [http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=poIdcdytevB8h_kYqyV41EA&hl=en GG Solar Thermal Workbook] (AR: Kudos if you can achieve this - I will take your word for it that you can.) |
− | *** 23 Million BTU per heating season (Nov15 - Mar 15) See [http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=poIdcdytevB8h_kYqyV41EA&hl=en GG Solar Thermal Workbook] | + | |
*** [http://www.sunearthinc.com/empire.pdf SunEarth Thermal Capacity] | *** [http://www.sunearthinc.com/empire.pdf SunEarth Thermal Capacity] | ||
*** Assume | *** Assume | ||
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**** Partly Sunny: 560 BTU/sf Winter; BTU/sf Summer | **** Partly Sunny: 560 BTU/sf Winter; BTU/sf Summer | ||
**** Cloudy: 375 BTU/sf Winter; BTU/sf Summer | **** Cloudy: 375 BTU/sf Winter; BTU/sf Summer | ||
− | ** Flow Rate: 1g/m per panel (12 g/m max): Total 10g/m...max at 30 - 40g/min | + | ** Flow Rate: 1g/m per panel (12 g/m max): Total 10g/m...max at 30 - 40g/min (AR: When you are dealing with a drainback with no heat exchanger on the solar loop side, I feel .5 gpm/collector is adequate. I feel a full 1 gpm is wasting watts and adding wear and tear on the copper collector piping) |
− | ** Pressure: 160 psi | + | ** Pressure: 160 psi (AR: What is this? Max. test pressure? With drainback it is at atmospheric pressure +/-. With glycol, probably 15 to 25 psi.) |
− | ** Temp: 15 - 25F delta T for T in vs. T out; | + | ** Temp: 15 - 25F delta T for T in vs. T out; (AR: You will probably find your T in vs. T out is under 15 especially if you have more than about .6 gpm/collector.) Max - can boil...control with the flow. Min: - above storage temp or radiant floor or indoor temp |
− | *** Overheating / Heat dump | + | *** Overheating / Heat dump (AR: If you use a drainback, you have a little more leeway to handle occasional stagnations (no glycol to turn acidic), but I would still recommend some overheat protection - could be a good greenhouse/tarp-roll arrangement manually raised and lowered over part of the array - or a heat dump of some sort.) |
***** He has covered the panels...often recommends doing so | ***** He has covered the panels...often recommends doing so | ||
− | ***** paint the panels with poster paint that washes off | + | ***** paint the panels with poster paint that washes off (AR: Of the 3, I would have least confidence in this measure) |
***** uses radiator coils with fans to dump heat | ***** uses radiator coils with fans to dump heat | ||
* '''Open Issues''' | * '''Open Issues''' | ||
− | ** Drainback option that eliminates glycol | + | ** Drainback option that eliminates glycol (AR: If possible, and I think it is, I would recommend drainback.) |
** Thermal capacity calcs...w/ domestic hot water...how many additional panels 2 vs. 3. | ** Thermal capacity calcs...w/ domestic hot water...how many additional panels 2 vs. 3. | ||
** Review other panel manufacturers | ** Review other panel manufacturers |
Revision as of 22:28, 30 March 2009
return to Solar Heating Design
Contents
Demand Requirements
- Load Requirements / Assumptions
- Targeting meeting 90% of space heating load
- Design Heating Season = Nov 15 - March 15
AR: This is pretty radical to get to Nov.15 with no heat, but reportedly this was well calculated with super insulation.
- Total Solar Heating Load = Space Heating Load + Domestic Hot Water
- Space Heating Load = 22 million BTU per heating season; 184k BTU/day
- Total Solar Heating Load = Space Heating Load + Domestic Hot Water
AR: Again, by normal standards this is at least an order of magnitude low, but ...
- Domestic Hot Water Load = 120 gals / day
- See Green Garage - Current Design Assumptions
- See our GG Solar Thermal Workbook
Solar Heating System Overview
Solar Thermal Collectors
- Goal = highest Heat Output / Total Life-cycle Cost
- Should BTU generated per dollar invested...why not just buy little more of a slightly lower efficient panel that is much less expensive and get same total energy.
- where Heat Output (Q-out) = Temp Rise x Volume Flow Rate x Specific Heat of Water
- Basics Guidelines
- Solar thermal (liquid) panels are up to 80% efficient ... 5 to 10 times that of PV panels (AR: I would suggest thermal is normally more like 35% to 70% efficient and about 3 or 4 times the efficiency of PV)
- The efficiency varies greatly with delta T (Tin - Tout)the greater the difference the lower the efficiency
- Solar Collectors
- Flat Panel vs. Evacuated Tube
- Choose: Flat panel because of lower cost (approx 1/3 the cost) and higher durability (twice the life)..performance usually better in the system vs. on the testing bench (AR: I second most of the above, except square foot cost of discount Chinese evacs can be roughly equal to flat plates.)
- Manufacturer
- Sun Earth
- Empire Flat Plate and Spec single glazed, copper, selective absorber |Intercept: 0.758, Slope: -0.727
- Conversation with Bob at SunEarth on March 23, 2008
- Others: Solar Hot Panels highly recommended, AET (STSS recommended), Solar Thermal System, Heliodyne large market share. Apricus ... the evacuated version that Roman used. (AR: We are now shifting from SolarHot collectors to Solene Cromagen - slightly better numbers and equally good pricing - just under $800 for a 4x10)
- Sun Earth
- Flat Panel vs. Evacuated Tube
- Preliminary Specifications
- Size: 4ft x 10ft
- Number: 10 = area 400sf
- Positioning
- On the annex building flat roof
- Vertical Angle: 55 degrees per SRCC guide the panels should be (Latitude + 15 degrees) for winter heating driven systems (AR: 10 panels at 55 degrees will probably create a lot of summer overheating. My first thought for this application is more like 65 to 70 degrees)
- Horizontal Angle: solar "true" south - determine at site...slightly west of magnetic south...estimated to be approx + 4degrees degrees for Detroit. +/- 15 degrees is ok. Site for sunrise/sunset data (AR: I would recommend 5 or 8 degrees West of due South to slightly favor the afternoon sun when it is warmer with lower delta T)
- Configuring
- Portrait orientation
- Parallel connection (AR: For lowest cost installation, and best efficiency with least exterior piping, I would recommend all 10 panels in one straight row, in series - Feed emerges from roof at one end. Return enters roof at other end - could not be more efficient)
- One feeder pipe to two groups of five panels in parellel (i.e. five per manifold.) ** Thermal Capacity:
- 23 Million BTU per heating season (Nov15 - Mar 15) See GG Solar Thermal Workbook (AR: Kudos if you can achieve this - I will take your word for it that you can.)
- SunEarth Thermal Capacity
- Assume
- Full Sun: 750 BTU/sf Winter; BTU/sf Summer
- Partly Sunny: 560 BTU/sf Winter; BTU/sf Summer
- Cloudy: 375 BTU/sf Winter; BTU/sf Summer
- Flow Rate: 1g/m per panel (12 g/m max): Total 10g/m...max at 30 - 40g/min (AR: When you are dealing with a drainback with no heat exchanger on the solar loop side, I feel .5 gpm/collector is adequate. I feel a full 1 gpm is wasting watts and adding wear and tear on the copper collector piping)
- Pressure: 160 psi (AR: What is this? Max. test pressure? With drainback it is at atmospheric pressure +/-. With glycol, probably 15 to 25 psi.)
- Temp: 15 - 25F delta T for T in vs. T out; (AR: You will probably find your T in vs. T out is under 15 especially if you have more than about .6 gpm/collector.) Max - can boil...control with the flow. Min: - above storage temp or radiant floor or indoor temp
- Overheating / Heat dump (AR: If you use a drainback, you have a little more leeway to handle occasional stagnations (no glycol to turn acidic), but I would still recommend some overheat protection - could be a good greenhouse/tarp-roll arrangement manually raised and lowered over part of the array - or a heat dump of some sort.)
- He has covered the panels...often recommends doing so
- paint the panels with poster paint that washes off (AR: Of the 3, I would have least confidence in this measure)
- uses radiator coils with fans to dump heat
- Overheating / Heat dump (AR: If you use a drainback, you have a little more leeway to handle occasional stagnations (no glycol to turn acidic), but I would still recommend some overheat protection - could be a good greenhouse/tarp-roll arrangement manually raised and lowered over part of the array - or a heat dump of some sort.)
- Open Issues
- Drainback option that eliminates glycol (AR: If possible, and I think it is, I would recommend drainback.)
- Thermal capacity calcs...w/ domestic hot water...how many additional panels 2 vs. 3.
- Review other panel manufacturers
- Insulation of panels?
Thermal Storage
- Demand Requirements
- Space heating and domestic hot water. We're investigating cooling ideas.
- Goal is, practically speaking, 90% with a retro fit...no opportunity for below floor storage.
- 10 gallons ( or approx 1 cu ft) for every 1 sf of solar panel if you want to get to near 95% of heating demand
- Hold four days of heat (Rushforth LLC uses 2+ days... and gets much better results than one day)
- Basic Guidelines
- Place storage indoors...not outdoors, because heat loss indoors helps heat the building.
- Manufacturer
- STSS
- Communications with Brad @ STSS
- Tank Sizes
- Other:
- American Solar Solutions Comes on a pallet and you assemble...you can get it in the basement. Comes in 800 gallon tanks with heat exchangers.
- Design Tank Fiberglass tanks comes in sections
- STSS
- Preliminary Specifications
- Location of Storage
- Ground floor slab in addition bldg
- Create insulated room w/ R-25 walls + R-25 floor + R-25 ceiling
- Thermal Architecture
- All heat generators (i.e. solar and geothermal) connected to the storage
- All heat consumers (i.e radiant heat and domestic hot water) can draw heat from storage via heat exchangers.
- Size of storage
- Store 2 million BTU to start (3,500 gallons)
- Number of tanks: 1 - 3,500 gal
- Assume 1,500 gal
- Size: 3,500 gal = 10 ft dia x 7ft tall
- Capacity: 470cf
- Thermal Capacity:
- Winter: 3500 gals = 470cf = 2.3 mBTU: equivalent to approx 13 average winter days (almost two weeks)
- Summer: TBD
- Thermal Loss: R-19 around tank
- Flow Rate: Max 15g/m ... geothermal connection
- Pressure: Sealed, non-pressurized
- Fluid: Water...no additive
- Temp: Max: 175F Min: above radiant floor or indoor temp
- Location of Storage
- Open Issues
- Number of tanks...prefer 1 tank due to cost of heat exchangers
- Min temp from a systems design standpoint...not a tank material standpoint?
- What about using it for off-peak cooling storage for the geothermal?
Radiant Floor
- Demand Requirements
- Areas: 8200sf Historic, 2xxx Annex
- See peak load in GG Solar Thermal Workbook
- Basic Guidelines
- Only 10% of heat is lost through the floor...42% through the roof
- Radiant heats up to about 7ft from the floor
- Manufacturer
- Radiantec from Vermont
- Others:
- Preliminary Specification
- Zones: approx 1100sf; 8 - Historic; 2 - Annex
- Circuits: 6 per zone
- Plex: 1/2in
- Spacing: 8in
- Flow Rate: 4.5 g/m
- Temp: normal winter operating 90F; max = 130F
- Thermal Capacity: 38,000 BTU/hr per zone
- Floor architecture
- Historic
- Vapor barrier or sealer (10mm?)
- Two layers of 1" XPS with seams staggered and sealed. (2")
- Reflective radiant barrier (could be foil on the XPS?) (mm)
- Sleepers (1.5") with metal heat extenders
- Plywood? Wood Flooring (1")
- All screwed together, run trenches
- Historic
- Open Issues
- Normal operating temps winter...summer? Winter = 90F max...summer = 68F min
- Can radiant floor be used for cooling? Yes see ASHRAE report ... min 68 degrees
- Plex sizing in Michigan code? Appears we can use 3/4"...1/2 min
Geothermal
- Preliminary Spec
- Location: Basement
- Connect Geothermal to with open loop to the mass storage
- Manufacturer
- Water Furnace...Envision
- Open Issues
- Geothermal - operating temps (min-max)
Resources
- Overall
- Overall Concept ... recommends thermal storage.
- DOE Solar Liquid Heating
- Solar Thermal System Calculator Surpisingly sophisticated
- Natural Sun Heating - Mentor is Sunpower Designs from Laren Corie
- Build it Solar - wonderful resource for everything solar
- Dr. Shurcliff's 101 Solar Space Heating designs excellent common sense ideas for solar heating
- Passive ZED/Solar Heating Site
- Rushforth Solar LLC Solid consulting company in PA for solar heating.
- The Oil Drum forum