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Came from our  3 hour meeting with Mette Skovbjerg, Project Manager and Berndt Jespersen on Tuesday - April 10, 2012.
 
Came from our  3 hour meeting with Mette Skovbjerg, Project Manager and Berndt Jespersen on Tuesday - April 10, 2012.
  
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* There is a company in Sweden that is selling greenhouses called Plantagon.  Very advanced approach.  Hans Hassle, the owner, is very advanced in his thinking. 
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===== Basic Concepts =====
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** They also have a philosophy for [http://plantagon.com/urban-agriculture/industrial-symbiosis Industrial Symbiosis for urban agriculture].
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* '''How it works'''
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** Waste of one company = Raw material for the next
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** Unit Transferred = Waste Fraction
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** Please note the "mindset is free!"
  
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* The UK has formed the NISP - National Industrial Symbiosis Program (?)
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* '''Agreements''': ...each interconnect --- symbiotic relationship has:
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** They are trying to help get industrial symbiosis' formed....lots on their website
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** They have a website where you can post your waste you want to "sell"
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** They have a facilitation approach to find waste matches
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* Please note the "mindset is free!"
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* by 2010 100% of Denmark's energy is to be renewable.
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* One windmill = 400 mWatts
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** People don't like the way they look
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** Pension funds are funding the projects
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** One of Bern's neighbors funded one.
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** How about Catalaunch and wind
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** Building on land is 1 fraction of cost of building at sea
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* Waste of one company = Raw material for the next
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* Each interconnect --- symbiotic relationship has:
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** an arms length commercial agreement
 
** an arms length commercial agreement
 
*** Agreements are typically 10 - 15 years
 
*** Agreements are typically 10 - 15 years
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** grew organically...no master plan, not a project, not an organization...it's a mindset  
 
** grew organically...no master plan, not a project, not an organization...it's a mindset  
 
*** seems to have been started by bthe engineers working together
 
*** seems to have been started by bthe engineers working together
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** have a "market" basis e.g. use 30 day energy rates for heat transfer
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* Examples -
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** Fish farming  ... uses 9C water from the power plant
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* Symbiosis evolution
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** 1.0 pure economics
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** 2.0 Green...clean future together
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*** the power plant needs to be green by demand of the pharmacutical company
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*** "Can we solve this future better together?"  Can get more by working together
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*  Unit Transferred = Waste Fraction
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* Principles
 
* Principles
 
** 1) Members that fit together can (need) to be different  
 
** 1) Members that fit together can (need) to be different  
 
*** more difficult to combine waste streams of similar companies
 
*** more difficult to combine waste streams of similar companies
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*** cluster theories of economics
 
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*** Yale has a great [http://cie.research.yale.edu/ Center for Industrial Ecology]; key Professor is  [http://environment.yale.edu/profile/chertow Marian Chertow]. [http://environment.yale.edu/profile/chertow/research Summary of Dr. Chertow's research]...actually a very good summary of the whole area of Industrial Symbiosis.
 
 
** 2) Focus on continuous waste streams   
 
** 2) Focus on continuous waste streams   
 
*** Some are combining waste streams for several "suppliers" to meet the need
 
*** Some are combining waste streams for several "suppliers" to meet the need
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*** Payback timeframes have moved from 3-5yrs to 1-2 yrs
 
*** Payback timeframes have moved from 3-5yrs to 1-2 yrs
 
** 4) Physical location needs to be close by
 
** 4) Physical location needs to be close by
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** 5) Mental distance needs to be short
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** 5) Mental distance between partners needs to be short
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* Value Pyramid (using $/lb)...make the highest use of the waste
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** 1) Medicine / Beauty ($/lb)
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** 2) Nutrient
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** 3) Animal Food
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** 4) Energy
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** unit prices go up dramatically
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** first... use output at highest value
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* Symbiosis evolution
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** 1.0 pure economics
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** 2.0 Green...clean future together
 +
*** the power plant needs to be green by demand of the pharmacutical company
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*** "Can we solve this future better together?"  Can get more by working together
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===== Symbionic Examples =====
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* Fish farming  ... uses 9C water from the power plant
  
 
* Pyroneer = gasifier  
 
* Pyroneer = gasifier  
  
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* Algae innovators ecoduna
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* Gypno - gypsum company near a power plant
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===== Other Symbiosis Resources =====
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* '''Plantagon'''
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** There is a company in Sweden that is selling greenhouses called Plantagon. 
 +
** Very advanced approach. 
 +
** Hans Hassle, the owner, is very advanced in his thinking. 
 +
** They also have a philosophy for [http://plantagon.com/urban-agriculture/industrial-symbiosis Industrial Symbiosis for urban agriculture].
 +
* '''NISP - National Industrial Symbiosis Program''' in the UK
 +
** They are trying to help get industrial symbiosis' formed....lots on their website
 +
** They have a website where you can post your waste you want to "sell"
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** They have a facilitation approach to find waste matches
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* '''Yale University''' [http://cie.research.yale.edu/ Center for Industrial Ecology];
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** Key Professor is  [http://environment.yale.edu/profile/chertow Marian Chertow]. [http://environment.yale.edu/profile/chertow/research
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*** Summary of Dr. Chertow's research]...actually a very good summary of the whole area of Industrial Symbiosis.
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===== Other Sustainability Ideas =====
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* '''Wind Turbines''' ... Berndt's info
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** One windmill = 400 mWatts
 +
** People don't like the way they look
 +
** Pension funds are funding the projects
 +
** One of Bern's neighbors funded one.
 +
** How about Catalaunch and wind
 +
** Building on land is 1 fraction of cost of building at sea
 +
** by 2010 100% of Denmark's energy is to be renewable!
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* '''Algae''' innovators ecoduna
 
** Out of Austria
 
** Out of Austria
 
** Have production in Germany with a Swedish power company Vattenfall
 
** Have production in Germany with a Swedish power company Vattenfall
  
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* Gypno - gypsum company near a power plant
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* '''Solum'''
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* Solum  
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** Anaerobic Digestion company from Denmark
 
** Anaerobic Digestion company from Denmark
 
** Aikan technology
 
** Aikan technology
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** Very low tech...but very innovative in the design
 
** Very low tech...but very innovative in the design
  
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* Heat storage in vertical tanks
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* '''Heat storage in vertical tanks'''
 
** 125C at top and 50C at the bottom (presurized)
 
** 125C at top and 50C at the bottom (presurized)
 
** Use stratification to help.
 
** Use stratification to help.
 
** put input heat in the top...put cold in the bottom
 
** put input heat in the top...put cold in the bottom
 
** could mix if you need some temp in between
 
** could mix if you need some temp in between
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** uses large collendar like filters at the top and bottom to take the input but prevent the mixing  
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** uses large collendar like filters at the top and bottom to take the input but prevent the mixing
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* Value Pyramid (using $/lb)
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** 1) Medicine / Beauty ($/lb)
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** 2) Nutrient
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** 3) Animal Food
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** 4) Energy
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** unit prices go up dramatically
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** first... use output at highest value
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* Symbiosis Agreements
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** arms length
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** long-term
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** benefit both
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** have a "market" basis e.g. use 30 day energy rates
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Revision as of 13:48, 16 April 2012

Here are some notes (and follow on research) from our trip to Europe in April 2012.

Industrial Symbiosis

Kalundborg Symbiosis Center

Came from our 3 hour meeting with Mette Skovbjerg, Project Manager and Berndt Jespersen on Tuesday - April 10, 2012.

Basic Concepts
  • How it works
    • Waste of one company = Raw material for the next
    • Unit Transferred = Waste Fraction
    • Please note the "mindset is free!"
  • Agreements: ...each interconnect --- symbiotic relationship has:
    • an arms length commercial agreement
      • Agreements are typically 10 - 15 years
    • makes each company better
    • grew organically...no master plan, not a project, not an organization...it's a mindset
      • seems to have been started by bthe engineers working together
    • have a "market" basis e.g. use 30 day energy rates for heat transfer
  • Principles
    • 1) Members that fit together can (need) to be different
      • more difficult to combine waste streams of similar companies
    • 2) Focus on continuous waste streams
      • Some are combining waste streams for several "suppliers" to meet the need
    • 3) Each project is economically sustainable on it's own
      • Payback timeframes have moved from 3-5yrs to 1-2 yrs
    • 4) Physical location needs to be close by
    • 5) Mental distance between partners needs to be short
  • Value Pyramid (using $/lb)...make the highest use of the waste
    • 1) Medicine / Beauty ($/lb)
    • 2) Nutrient
    • 3) Animal Food
    • 4) Energy
    • unit prices go up dramatically
    • first... use output at highest value
  • Symbiosis evolution
    • 1.0 pure economics
    • 2.0 Green...clean future together
      • the power plant needs to be green by demand of the pharmacutical company
      • "Can we solve this future better together?" Can get more by working together


Symbionic Examples
  • Fish farming ... uses 9C water from the power plant
  • Pyroneer = gasifier
  • Gypno - gypsum company near a power plant
Other Symbiosis Resources
  • Plantagon
    • There is a company in Sweden that is selling greenhouses called Plantagon.
    • Very advanced approach.
    • Hans Hassle, the owner, is very advanced in his thinking.
    • They also have a philosophy for Industrial Symbiosis for urban agriculture.
  • NISP - National Industrial Symbiosis Program in the UK
    • They are trying to help get industrial symbiosis' formed....lots on their website
    • They have a website where you can post your waste you want to "sell"
    • They have a facilitation approach to find waste matches
  • Yale University Center for Industrial Ecology;
Other Sustainability Ideas
  • Wind Turbines ... Berndt's info
    • One windmill = 400 mWatts
    • People don't like the way they look
    • Pension funds are funding the projects
    • One of Bern's neighbors funded one.
    • How about Catalaunch and wind
    • Building on land is 1 fraction of cost of building at sea
    • by 2010 100% of Denmark's energy is to be renewable!
  • Algae innovators ecoduna
    • Out of Austria
    • Have production in Germany with a Swedish power company Vattenfall
  • Solum
    • Anaerobic Digestion company from Denmark
    • Aikan technology
    • Have compost and gas production together
    • This may be the answer to the water!!! It reuses the water over and over again. Cirulating it.
    • Very low tech...but very innovative in the design
  • Heat storage in vertical tanks
    • 125C at top and 50C at the bottom (presurized)
    • Use stratification to help.
    • put input heat in the top...put cold in the bottom
    • could mix if you need some temp in between
    • uses large collendar like filters at the top and bottom to take the input but prevent the mixing
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