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** 1) Members that fit together can (need) to be different | ** 1) Members that fit together can (need) to be different | ||
*** more difficult to combine waste streams of similar companies | *** more difficult to combine waste streams of similar companies | ||
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** 2) Focus on continuous waste streams | ** 2) Focus on continuous waste streams | ||
*** Some are combining waste streams for several "suppliers" to meet the need | *** Some are combining waste streams for several "suppliers" to meet the need | ||
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*** Payback timeframes have moved from 3-5yrs to 1-2 yrs | *** Payback timeframes have moved from 3-5yrs to 1-2 yrs | ||
** 4) Physical location needs to be close by | ** 4) Physical location needs to be close by | ||
| − | ** 5) Mental distance needs to be short | + | ** 5) Mental distance between partners needs to be short |
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| + | * '''Value Pyramid''' (using $/lb)...make the highest use of the waste | ||
| + | ** 1) Medicine / Beauty ($/lb) | ||
| + | ** 2) Nutrient | ||
| + | ** 3) Animal Food | ||
| + | ** 4) Energy | ||
| + | ** unit prices go up dramatically | ||
| + | ** first... use output at highest value | ||
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| + | * '''Symbiosis evolution''' | ||
| + | ** 1.0 pure economics | ||
| + | ** 2.0 Green...clean future together | ||
| + | *** the power plant needs to be green by demand of the pharmacutical company | ||
| + | *** "Can we solve this future better together?" Can get more by working together | ||
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| + | ===== Symbionic Examples ===== | ||
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| + | * Fish farming ... uses 9C water from the power plant | ||
* Pyroneer = gasifier | * Pyroneer = gasifier | ||
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| + | ===== Other Symbiosis Resources ===== | ||
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| + | * '''[http://www.symbiocity.org/ SymbioCity]''' - Sweden's national vision and support for sustainable cities based on industrial symbiosis. | ||
| + | * '''Plantagon''' | ||
| + | ** There is a company in Sweden that is selling greenhouses called Plantagon. | ||
| + | ** Very advanced approach. | ||
| + | ** Hans Hassle, the owner, is very advanced in his thinking. | ||
| + | ** They also have a philosophy for [http://plantagon.com/urban-agriculture/industrial-symbiosis Industrial Symbiosis for urban agriculture]. | ||
| + | * '''NISP - National Industrial Symbiosis Program''' in the UK | ||
| + | ** They are trying to help get industrial symbiosis' formed....lots on their website | ||
| + | ** They have a website where you can post your waste you want to "sell" | ||
| + | ** They have a facilitation approach to find waste matches | ||
| + | * '''Yale University''' [http://cie.research.yale.edu/ Center for Industrial Ecology]; | ||
| + | ** Key Professor is [http://environment.yale.edu/profile/chertow Marian Chertow]. [http://environment.yale.edu/profile/chertow/research | ||
| + | *** Summary of Dr. Chertow's research]...actually a very good summary of the whole area of Industrial Symbiosis. | ||
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| + | ===== Other Sustainability Ideas ===== | ||
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| + | * '''Wind Turbines''' ... Berndt's info | ||
| + | ** One windmill = 400 mWatts | ||
| + | ** People don't like the way they look | ||
| + | ** Pension funds are funding the projects | ||
| + | ** One of Bern's neighbors funded one. | ||
| + | ** How about Catalaunch and wind | ||
| + | ** Building on land is 1 fraction of cost of building at sea | ||
| + | ** by 2010 100% of Denmark's energy is to be renewable! | ||
| − | * | + | * '''Algae''' innovators [http://www.ecoduna.com/pages/en/mainsite/home.php ecoduna] |
| + | ** Out of Austria | ||
| + | ** Have production in Germany with a power company Vattenfall...project can be read about [http://www.ecoduna.com/pages/en/mainsite/ecoduna-vattenfall.php here]. | ||
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** Anaerobic Digestion company from Denmark | ** Anaerobic Digestion company from Denmark | ||
** Aikan technology | ** Aikan technology | ||
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** Very low tech...but very innovative in the design | ** Very low tech...but very innovative in the design | ||
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** 125C at top and 50C at the bottom (presurized) | ** 125C at top and 50C at the bottom (presurized) | ||
** Use stratification to help. | ** Use stratification to help. | ||
** put input heat in the top...put cold in the bottom | ** put input heat in the top...put cold in the bottom | ||
** could mix if you need some temp in between | ** could mix if you need some temp in between | ||
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Latest revision as of 17:49, 17 April 2012
Here are some notes (and follow on research) from our trip to Europe in April 2012.
Contents
Industrial Symbiosis
Kalundborg Symbiosis Center
Came from our 3 hour meeting with Mette Skovbjerg, Project Manager and Berndt Jespersen on Tuesday - April 10, 2012.
Basic Concepts
- How it works
- Waste of one company = Raw material for the next
- Unit Transferred = Waste Fraction
- Please note the "mindset is free!"
- Agreements: ...each interconnect --- symbiotic relationship has:
- an arms length commercial agreement
- Agreements are typically 10 - 15 years
- makes each company better
- grew organically...no master plan, not a project, not an organization...it's a mindset
- seems to have been started by bthe engineers working together
- have a "market" basis e.g. use 30 day energy rates for heat transfer
- an arms length commercial agreement
- Principles
- 1) Members that fit together can (need) to be different
- more difficult to combine waste streams of similar companies
- 2) Focus on continuous waste streams
- Some are combining waste streams for several "suppliers" to meet the need
- 3) Each project is economically sustainable on it's own
- Payback timeframes have moved from 3-5yrs to 1-2 yrs
- 4) Physical location needs to be close by
- 5) Mental distance between partners needs to be short
- 1) Members that fit together can (need) to be different
- Value Pyramid (using $/lb)...make the highest use of the waste
- 1) Medicine / Beauty ($/lb)
- 2) Nutrient
- 3) Animal Food
- 4) Energy
- unit prices go up dramatically
- first... use output at highest value
- Symbiosis evolution
- 1.0 pure economics
- 2.0 Green...clean future together
- the power plant needs to be green by demand of the pharmacutical company
- "Can we solve this future better together?" Can get more by working together
Symbionic Examples
- Fish farming ... uses 9C water from the power plant
- Pyroneer = gasifier
- Gypno - gypsum company near a power plant
Other Symbiosis Resources
- SymbioCity - Sweden's national vision and support for sustainable cities based on industrial symbiosis.
- Plantagon
- There is a company in Sweden that is selling greenhouses called Plantagon.
- Very advanced approach.
- Hans Hassle, the owner, is very advanced in his thinking.
- They also have a philosophy for Industrial Symbiosis for urban agriculture.
- NISP - National Industrial Symbiosis Program in the UK
- They are trying to help get industrial symbiosis' formed....lots on their website
- They have a website where you can post your waste you want to "sell"
- They have a facilitation approach to find waste matches
- Yale University Center for Industrial Ecology;
- Key Professor is Marian Chertow. [http://environment.yale.edu/profile/chertow/research
- Summary of Dr. Chertow's research]...actually a very good summary of the whole area of Industrial Symbiosis.
- Key Professor is Marian Chertow. [http://environment.yale.edu/profile/chertow/research
Other Sustainability Ideas
- Wind Turbines ... Berndt's info
- One windmill = 400 mWatts
- People don't like the way they look
- Pension funds are funding the projects
- One of Bern's neighbors funded one.
- How about Catalaunch and wind
- Building on land is 1 fraction of cost of building at sea
- by 2010 100% of Denmark's energy is to be renewable!
- Algae innovators ecoduna
- Out of Austria
- Have production in Germany with a power company Vattenfall...project can be read about here.
- Solum
- Anaerobic Digestion company from Denmark
- Aikan technology
- Have compost and gas production together
- This may be the answer to the water!!! It reuses the water over and over again. Cirulating it.
- Very low tech...but very innovative in the design
- Heat storage in vertical tanks
- 125C at top and 50C at the bottom (presurized)
- Use stratification to help.
- put input heat in the top...put cold in the bottom
- could mix if you need some temp in between
- uses large collendar like filters at the top and bottom to take the input but prevent the mixing
